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The Hello and welcome to Open Mind UFO Radio.

I am your host Alejandro Rojas, and I have Jason Las Vegas McClellan with me.

Hey, Jason. Hello, sir. How are you today with me. Hey, Jason.

Hello, sir.

How are you today?

Good, good, good.

And I have someone else to introduce.

We have Lee Spigel Spiegel on the phone with us.

Did you call me Lee Spigabell?

Well, I almost went into your last name before I did your nickname, but all of the

co-hosts on the show, I give them a nickname for each show.

And, of course, the only one we have is Jason.

But because you're co-hosting this show with us that I had to give you a nickname and

your your Lee Big Apple Spiegel oh Lee Big Apple okay I almost screwed it up but no no I accept

that thank you very much yeah do you like it Big Apple um I I do uh I don't like living here anymore

but I I accept the title.

Really? Why not?

Because I've been here way too long for any human to have this experience.

Yeah. Most people get over it in three to four years, but Lee's been there way beyond that.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I've seen the advent while living here of first digital cameras so that, so that no matter where you walk, people are not paying attention to what they're doing and

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