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But That's Another Story, with host Will Schwalby. Will was actually an author on my podcast because

he has written two fantastic books called The End of Your Life Book Club and Books for Living. He

loves asking people what books they're reading and finds fantastic answers, and so

dedicated a whole podcast to finding out what notable figures, including authors and celebrities,

are reading. He's had guests like Kevin Kwan, Melinda Gates, Peter Hedges, and Jody Foster,

and has had many guests that I've also had on this podcast, including Minjin Lee, Danny Shapiro,

Gretchen Rubin, Michael Frank, and Pamela Paul. So you should listen to his episodes and go back

and listen to some of my episodes and check out his podcast. It's an insightful show. It's full of

moving stories and you'll find even more bucks to add to your TBR list than I have on this show.

So check out, but that's another

story with Will Schwabing. I'm on Skype today with Lee Madeline, who's the author of debut

novel Homemaking. Her writing has been featured in Lit Hub, The Rumpus, the Offing, and Denver

Quarterly. She is currently a lecturer at Clemson University and lives in Greenville,

South Carolina. So welcome, Lee. Thanks so much for coming on Mom. So I have time to read books.

Yeah, thank you so much. So can you please tell listeners what homemaking is about?

So I'm generally terrible about talking about my own work, but I'll do my best to offer

some sort of coherent summary.

So the novel really follows these three characters who are on these individual yet intersecting journeys,

if you could call it that, to figure out how they fit into the world.

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