Lee Bollinger on Trump’s Attack on Harvard and Academic Freedom

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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4.3 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Today on the show, Fareed speaks with former President of Columbia University Lee Bollinger about the Trump administration’s attacks on universities and what America stands to lose in the rollback of academic freedom. Then, author Michael Lewis joins the show to discuss his new book, “Who Is Government.” As DOGE moves to dismantle government agencies and paint federal workers as lazy, Lewis’ book chronicles the untold and crucial work being done by America’s civil servants. GUESTS: Lee Bollinger, Michael Lewis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:00.8	This is GPS, the Global Public Square.
1:03.7	Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
1:07.2	I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you from New York.
1:11.3	Today on the program, Trump takes on America's top colleges, freezing or pulling billions of
1:21.3	dollars of funding from institutions like Harvard, Columbia, and Cornell, unless they submit to his demands.
1:29.3	I'll talk to the former President of Columbia, Lee Bollinger.
1:33.3	Then, Elon Musk's Doge has already removed some 280,000 federal employees from their jobs.
1:43.3	The billionaire complains such workers tend to be liberal bureaucrats
1:49.0	who work against the president's agenda.
1:52.0	But the author Michael Lewis found something very different
1:56.0	when he reported on the government's workforce.
1:59.0	He'll explain.
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