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The Spear

Leaving Afghanistan

The Spear

John Amble

Government, News

4.8642 Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In the late summer of 2021, after years of service to his country—including four years at the United States Military Academy—Major Naqib Mirzada, an Afghan National Army Special Forces officer, and his family fled Afghanistan after the Taliban's seizure of Kabul. Arriving at Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 15, amid the US-led coalition's withdrawal from the country, Naqib and his family spent several grueling days trying to escape. On this episode, he tells the story of those last chaotic days in Afghanistan and the start of his life in the United States. This episode was jointly produced with the West Point Center for Oral History. The full video of Naqib’s interview will be available on the Center for Oral History’s website in the coming weeks.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to The Spear, a podcast about the combat experience from the Modern War Institute at West Point.

0:09.8

More than 100 meters outside the village, you were definitely getting in a firepower.

0:14.1

My first patrol I took, we had a fire ambush.

0:18.9

And then it was just a huge explosion.

0:23.0

The primary threat was RKG3 grenades,

0:25.9

like machine guns and AK-47s, that kind of thing.

0:28.4

Small arms, fire, RPG fire.

0:31.2

Explosively formed penetrators.

0:32.9

Suicide bombs.

0:35.5

And then that's about the time that the third IED went off.

0:38.0

And that's when another grenade comes spinning over the side of the wall.

0:41.8

And it's at that point the IED chain detonates.

0:46.8

There was enemy in the wire.

0:48.3

There was all these Humvees on fire.

0:50.0

It was truly bullets flying from every angle that you could see. I opened the door and look outside and all I see is muzzle flashes.

0:59.0

There's a guy on top with a 240.

1:02.0

In the rounds, passed right past his head.

1:03.0

At that point, our instincts kicked in.

1:05.0

One pilot on the controls, the other pilot was using his M4 to engage single-man targets on the ground.

1:10.0

You're shooting at everything.

1:16.6

It was a fight. Welcome to the Spear, the podcast about the combat experience, brought to you by the

1:23.1

Modern War Institute at West Point. This episode is different than many of our others.

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