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Pass The Mic

#LeaveLoud with Ally Henny and Zee Johnson

Pass The Mic

The Witness

Christianity, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

We have a special conversation for you today! We’ve been talking about the “quiet exodus” for many years, but what about when your stand for dignity forces you out? That was the case of Zee Johnson, a worship pastor in Texas who was removed from her position for speaking out about injustice. She sat down with Combing The Roots Podcast host Ally Henny to tell her story and hopefully encourage others who are in the same position. This conversation is important! Listen carefully and share widely. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:09.0

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0:15.8

reader. Visit Christmas Gift buying guide.com to browse our books. This is Pass the Mic. Greetings and God Bless.

0:35.0

Welcome to another episode of Pass the Mic.

0:38.0

Dynamic Voices for a diverse church powered by The Witness, a Black Christian collective.

0:43.2

I'm your host Tyler Burns.

0:44.3

You can follow me on Twitter at Burns 23.

0:46.4

Follow at your own risk.

0:48.4

And I'm so excited about today's episode

0:50.6

because it's a little bit different. You're not going to be hearing from the man

0:54.3

the myth the legend, Jamar Tisbee today, but you're also not going to be hearing from me

0:58.6

either. Now I know this is interesting, but we have a special treat for you.

1:03.0

Since 2015 or 2016, when the first of the viral videos

1:08.0

and hashtags started to emerge on the internet and on social media, we have been talking about black Christians being

1:17.2

forced or choosing to leave white evangelical spaces.

1:21.6

This culminated in a 2018 article written by the New York Times

1:25.6

journalist Campbell Robertson entitled a quiet exodus why black Christians

1:30.4

are leaving white evangelical churches.

1:33.4

And we have been interacting since that time with dozens, maybe even hundreds, perhaps even thousands

1:40.1

of black Christians who have similar, if not the same exact story.

1:44.1

The second that they spoke out about their brothers and sisters who are dying in the streets,

1:48.6

the second that they mentioned the injustices that they saw around them, they were ostracized and marginalized in their places of worship.

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