So hey, we're having a great conversation here as we talk about leave loud two years later.

We're going to continue this conversation as we talk about part two of this discussion.

There's so much more to say, so much more to consider.

Is there still a leave loud campaign to be had?

And I asked that because I wonder if a lot of the sifting has happened at this point,

where, you know, I stumbled down a rabbit hole and was looking at some of the old conferences

and websites that we used to be part of, right?

And it's like, I don't really see too many black folks there anymore.

I don't really hear a lot of new black voices entering into these spaces.

And it makes me wonder, okay, have they, have they left?

And so that's one part of it.

The flip side is, one part is, you know, how much leaving is there still left to do among

Christians who've been in our circles?

And then the second part is if folks have left, which I get a sense that a good number

have in some way, shape or form, is there an evolution of leave loud that's more about

being on the way?

Yeah, I know Ali will speak to this, but I would say briefly that I think, I think you've

seen maybe a little bit more of a sifting is because people have landed where they feel

like they need to land, maybe about individuals like you or the witness or others, you're

saying Ali or, you know, someone else, they've landed where they feel like they need

to land.

They're, yeah, we love them and we love the work they're doing and we support it or,

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