Learning To Live Like Jesus (with Matt Chandler)

The Leader’s Cut with Preston Morrison

Preston Morrison

Business, Religion & Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Christianity

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🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Leader’s Cut, Preston Morrison sits down with Matt Chandler for a raw, honest conversation about the journey to a life of holiness. The unpack the lies that keeps most people from ever experiencing true freedom, and move past the superficial to explore what it actually looks like to be refined by the Spirit of God in the places no one else sees. Matt pulls back the curtain on the subtle but dangerous shift that happens when we stop following Jesus as Lord and start treating Him like an messenger for our own comfort. If the goal of life has become an endless cycle of upgrades and ease, this conversation serves as a necessary reset. It’s a deep dive into the reality that real change isn’t found in a crowded room on Sunday, but in the quiet, mundane moments of a random weekday afternoon. In this conversation, we explore: * The "Tuesday" Concept: The reason spiritual growth is actually found in the monotonous, ordinary parts of life rather than the mountaintops. * The Strength of Vulnerability: Why the most influential people are often the ones willing to be the most honest about their own need for change. * Conviction vs. Shame: How to tell the difference between the voice that wants to hide you and the voice that wants to heal you. * No Dark Corners: What it looks like to finally invite God into the spaces we usually try to keep off-limits. This episode isn't just a conversation; it’s an invitation to stop performing and start yielding. For anyone who feels like they’ve been running on a spiritual treadmill, this discussion offers a path toward a peace that actually lasts—even when life gets uncomfortable.

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0:00.0	It's the great lie to discourage and deceive the saints.
0:04.0	That something's wrong with me, that I'm the only one, that God's brow is furrowed towards me,
0:09.9	that I'm such a disappointment.
0:11.6	Talk about what you're saying today, the way the enemy is using comfort.
0:15.8	What we've done is we've made Jesus our Aaron boy to make us more and more comfortable.
0:20.9	And we love him as long as he's doing that for us, as long as we can get on the upgrade cycle
0:25.7	and stay on it. The upgrade cycle will kill the soul. If you don't quit you, if you cling to him,
0:32.3	he is with you through the valley of the shadow of death, which is why you don't need to fear any
0:37.0	evil because he's with you. This part of the shadow of death, which is why you don't need to fear any evil, because he's with you.
0:39.3	This part of the conversation right here, especially if you're someone that's seeing what God is doing all over the earth,
0:45.3	and something in you is burning. You are yearning to be on the front line and just being a part of whatever God wants to do through you and what he's
0:55.9	doing on the earth, I want you to really dial in to this part of the conversation.
1:03.5	What's up everybody? Welcome to the leader, Scott. Got a really special guest today that I am
1:09.1	actually quite excited. I'm going to nerd out a little bit
1:11.7	because we are going to talk about a book that I have consumed and digested and have hundreds and
1:17.8	hundreds of one-liners. You know how I roll. And so I'm going to try not to wear Matt out by just
1:22.4	going through a list of my one-liners and forgetting that we're doing this for you and for the Lord. But we're
1:29.4	going to have some really fun conversation today about what God's doing, but also about the price
1:33.5	of admission. I know we've been talking about this for a while. God is moving on the earth in
1:38.4	very special ways, but many are sitting on the sidelines. And so I just want to pray and we're
1:43.2	going to get into this and just let Matt run.
1:46.0	Spirit of the living God, we are just so grateful for you.
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