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5-4

Learning Resources Inc. v. Trump

5-4

Prologue Projects

Government, News, News Commentary

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Is the Supreme Court’s decision on tariffs a declaration of independence?? Only three columnists at the New York Times can say. 

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0:00.0

We will hear argument this morning in case 24, 1287, Learning Resources v. Trump.

0:07.6

Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this week's episode of 5 to 4, Peter,

0:14.2

Riannan, and Michael are talking about Learning Resources v. Trump. Early last year, President Trump

0:20.1

issued a series of executive orders,

0:22.1

imposing tariffs on goods from Mexico, Canada, and China. Then, in the spirit of inclusivity,

0:28.1

he expanded the tariffs to include every other country on earth. My fellow Americans,

0:32.8

this is Liberation Day. I'm waiting for a long time.

0:50.8

To issue these tariffs without congressional approval, Trump relied on a statute called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which allows the president to impose economic sanctions and regulate importation during national emergencies.

0:54.4

When the tariffs took effect, two small businesses sued the administration.

1:00.3

And just a few weeks ago, on February 20th, Supreme Court ruled against Trump.

1:04.7

I'm ashamed of certain members of the court. Absolutely ashamed.

1:16.2

This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks, even when they get it right. Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have chased

1:21.3

away our civil rights like Iran chasing influencers out of Dubai.

1:25.4

I'm Peter. I'm here with Riannon and Michael.

1:32.1

I've only loosely seen this story.

1:34.4

I mean, I've seen the hedge fund guy being like, this wasn't the trade we wanted when

1:40.2

we moved to Dubai, was to be involved in foreign relations.

1:45.5

I was like, what the fuck?

1:46.8

I came here for a crypto conference.

1:48.8

I have no comment.

1:49.8

I'm smiling.

1:50.8

I'm rosy-cheeked.

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