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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Leading with Love: Care and Compassion in the Early Days of AIDS

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The latest season of the Blindspot podcast, “The Plague In The Shadows,” brings listeners the voices of people who were affected in the early years of the HIV and AIDS epidemics. It includes stories like that of Kia LaBeija, an artist and activist who was diagnosed with HIV as a child soon after her parents both tested positive. LaBeija’s experience shows us how — even in a time when fear and stigma about the disease peaked — many people leaned into compassion that made a difference to those living with HIV and AIDS. She and a longtime family friend, Andre de Shields — the Grammy, Emmy and Tony Award-winning performer (“Hadestown” and “The Wiz”), who has been HIV-positive for decades — join host Kai Wright to talk about how they were touched and impacted by the forces of love that existed in their communities during the onset of the epidemic. Plus, listeners from across the country weigh in with their own stories; and journalist Linda Villarosa, author of “Under the Skin: The Hidden Toll of Racism on American Lives and on the Health of Our Nation,” joins the conversation with reflections on covering the AIDS epidemic for most of her career.

To hear more of Blindspot: The Plague In The Shadows, listen and subscribe here.Tell us what you think. We're @noteswithkai on Instagram and X (Twitter). Email us at [email protected]. Send us a voice message by recording yourself on your phone and emailing us, or record one here. Notes from America airs live on Sundays at 6 p.m. ET., and listeners to the broadcast and podcast are invited to join the conversation at 844-745-TALK(8255). Podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts.

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0:00.0

Go back to the early 80s, mid 80s, AIDS hits New York City like a pandemic.

0:07.0

People are scared. They don't know what, how it transmits, how you can get it. People didn't know.

0:14.0

People just started like disappearing.

0:16.0

Like one day they were there and the next day they were gone.

0:18.0

Like where did they go?

0:20.0

They would come into the hospital,

0:22.0

they admitted to my ICU and die.

0:26.4

They're people. They're not drug users. They're not patients. They're not

0:30.0

hemophiliac. They're people. Yes, we are being victimized, but we are not victims.

0:35.7

We're models of resistance.

0:37.8

We knew so little in the beginning.

0:39.4

It was really like walking through a minefield.

0:42.4

It was hard fought, lives were lost, and it was activists.

0:48.0

We changed the world. Oh. It's notes from America. I'm Ky right. Welcome to the show.

1:09.0

It's notes from America. I'm Ky Wright.

1:12.0

Welcome to the show. Those voices you heard are all people you can

1:16.3

meet in a podcast series I've been reporting for the past several months. It's called

1:20.5

Blind Spot, The Plague in the Shadows.

1:22.8

It's a history of the early years of the HIV and AIDS epidemic in the United States

1:27.7

and it's now out in the world. You can find the episodes right now at BlindSpot Podcast.org. It is full of intimate, deeply personal stories of

1:37.5

quiet acts of heroism of people who refuse to accept the pernicious idea that nothing could be done.

1:45.2

And as we've shared those stories with listeners, a lot of people have responded by saying

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