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Hi there, it's me, Alistair Campbell. Welcome to The Restisted Politics. Today, I want to introduce

you to our exciting new podcast, Leading. Roy and I have decided to set up a dedicated

interview feed and differentiate it from TheRestistPolitics, the main podcast because, crucially,

not all the interviews we're going to do will be with politicians. Every Monday, we're going to

try and speak to people who are leading in their field or have lead or could lead or might lead

or want to lead. Could be presidents, policymakers, sports stars, religious leaders. We're going to

be hosting some of the best and biggest names from many, many different walks of life.

And we were both thrilled with our first guest for leading former Deputy Prime Minister Michael

Heseltine, still looking and sounding pretty good at 89 years of age. One of the biggest names

in the history of British politics, Michael Heseltine discusses everything from his crucial role in

the rise and fall of Margaret Thatcher, his current position in the House of Lords, and his current

very interesting views on politics. So here is a quick preview from Leading with Michael Heseltine

out right now to hear TheRestist's search Leading Wherever You Get Your Podcasts. But for now,

enjoy this sneak peak. When Margaret Thatcher died, how did you feel? What was your assessment of her

life and legacy and her role in your life? We had as colleagues a very good relationship. I mean,

that doesn't mean to say we liked each other or were friends. That's ridiculous. That's not the

nature of the relationships of people in business or universities or hospitals or politics. But

you work alongside someone with someone and sometimes you work for somebody. And in my

experience with Margaret, she knew what I believed and it often coincided with what she believed.

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