We're back and we're back into an online controversy, Bruhaha as it was called

Pastor John in September 30th. You tweeted about coffee, he posted Hebrews 1228, which says

let us offer to God acceptable worship with reverence and awe, and in light of this

reverent, awe-filled vision for our worship, you posed this open question,

quote, Can we reassess whether Sunday coffee sipping in the sanctuary fits."

As I mentioned last time the tweet was loved and hated and spread all over the

internet to the point that average just a couple of weeks it had a thousand retweets

1500 comments 3,000 likes 2.7 million views on Twitter and feature articles online

from Fox News here in the States and the daily mail in the United Kingdom, none of which you saw, which we talked

about last time on Monday.

Now there's a lot behind the suite, a whole worldview really, and so we are building out the context behind it and you are

talking about how to build and shape a church with this reverential vibe and

everything that happens on Sunday morning.

Last time you signaled that you wanted to get into the nitty gritty of helping church leaders

really move their church away from casual worship towards something better and more fitting to what

Hebrews and really all of the Bible calls for. So get practical for us and pick up the discussion at this point.

Yeah, I argued last time that sipping coffee in the

holiest hour of Congregational W worship does not fit with reverence and awe that Hebrew

1228 calls for. Let us offer to God acceptable worship with reverence and awe,

Hebrew says.

But I argued, sipping coffee is not the heart of the matter.

The heart of the matter is that people and leaders don't have a heart that resonates

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