For this July 4th, I wanted to do something special to celebrate the birth of our nation.

So I invited General C.Q. Brown to join me on the podcast. General Brown is the Chief

of Staff of the Air Force, the Head of the Air Force, and a member of the Joint Chiefs

of Staff. He is also the current nominee to be the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, which

would make him the most senior-ranked member of the United States military. He's the

first African-American service chief, but more importantly, he's just a great officer

and a great general in our United States military. So we sat down to talk about what makes

a great leader. How senior people can stay in touch with young people, and quite frankly,

make sure that they get the truth of any situation, and yes, we talked about AI. General

Brown is humble, he's approachable, he's credible, and he is super inspiring. This is a bit

of optimism. General Brown, thank you so much for joining me. It's really such a treat

for me to get to talk to you here, so thanks so much for coming on.

It's a treat for me as well, so thanks for the opportunity.

I wanted to jump right in. You operate at actually the highest level of the Air Force. You

are the chief of staff, the Air Force, you run the Air Force. One of the things I'm so

fascinated about rank, and I see this in all organizations as people make their way up

a rank, which is the more senior you get, the more difficult it is to get the truth.

And it doesn't matter what kind of inclusive and open-minded environment you set, no matter

who you are, the rank becomes intimidating. People want to please you. Have you noticed

that? When did you start noticing that as you made it through your career, and how do

you combat that? I think the time that I noticed it the most

was when I was the Wayne Commander of Abyano, and I went there as a one-star select, and

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