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🗓️ 2 February 2024
⏱️ 41 minutes
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This week, Dr. J. Derek McNeil, the president of The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology, engages in a candid dialogue with Dr. Dan Allender, exploring the multifaceted challenges of leading in today's turbulent times.
Whether you hold a formal leadership role or not, this conversation speaks to the universal nature of leadership. Whether as a parent, grandparent, or friend, each of us has a level of influence on others and grapples with the burden of providing guidance amid uncertainty.
The conversation explores the tension between agency and dependence, and the balancing act of taking action and surrendering to a larger divine plan.
Derek candidly shares his journey, grappling with the uncertainties of life while prioritizing his mental, physical, and spiritual well-being. Drawing from his upbringing and faith tradition, he finds solace in scripture, particularly Jeremiah 29:11, during moments of uncertainty and despair. His emphasis on cultivating a support system and fostering collaboration underscores the importance of community in leadership roles.
As you engage with this conversation between two insightful leaders, we hope it deepens your understanding of the complexities of leadership and sparks a sense of renewed hope amid life's uncertainties.
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0:00.0 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. |
0:06.7 | I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
0:08.7 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen. |
0:10.5 | We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
0:14.7 | And restoration for the heart. |
0:17.2 | Thank you for joining us. |
0:18.5 | Let's get this conversation started. |
0:29.2 | Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started. I have the great privilege of being with Dr. Derek McNeil, who happens to be my boss. |
0:39.8 | He is the president of the Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. |
0:44.8 | And so it is a delight. |
0:47.1 | I'll introduce you a little more formally in a moment, but what an honor to have you on our |
0:52.1 | podcasts and essentially, given you're the boss on your podcast. |
0:58.4 | So welcome. |
1:00.0 | Well, you know, I have to kind of digest all that. I'm not sure what part of that makes |
1:03.7 | any sense to me at all. Figure head mostly, but I is a pleasure. |
1:11.9 | One, you know, it's interesting to say pleasure we're talking about issues of leadership and hopelessness and despair. |
1:19.6 | The pleasure is in the necessity of the talk, is these are things that need to be talked about. |
1:26.0 | And in that sense, it feels like a rich pleasure as opposed to superficial ice cream cone. |
1:33.9 | And I appreciate the depth of that. |
1:36.7 | Yeah, yeah. |
1:38.5 | I would hope so. |
1:39.9 | Well, let me further explain why my co-host is not with us. |
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