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Moral Maze

Leaders with faith

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Leaders with Faith

The first hustings in the election of the new leader of the Scottish National Party were held this week. The winner will become Scotland’s first minister. But so far the coverage of the campaign has been more about religion than policy. One of the three candidates, Kate Forbes is a member of the Free Church of Scotland and has faced criticism from within her party for saying that she would have voted against gay marriage, had she been an MSP in 2014. She also said that according to her religious beliefs, having a child outside of marriage was wrong. Several of her backers have withdrawn their support and others have questioned whether such views make her an appropriate choice to lead the country.

But why should traditional religious beliefs like this be a barrier to achieving high office? Forbes insists that it’s possible to be a person of faith, while still supporting the rights of others. Although she would have opposed the legalisation of same sex marriage, she says that as a “servant of democracy” she would now defend the legal right to gay marriage “to the hilt”.

Religious belief used to be seen by most people as a private matter. It was also generally regarded as a positive attribute in a senior politician, evidence perhaps of a strong moral compass. So what has changed in our attitudes to faith and should it affect how we choose our leaders?

Producer: Jonathan Hallewell Presenter: Michael Buerk

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:04.8

Good evening. The Free Church of Scotland takes religion seriously.

0:08.6

The idea that hymns could be sung at its services was so controversial,

0:13.2

an entire congregation and several of its ministers resigned when this frivolity, as they saw it,

0:18.5

was narrowly approved.

0:20.4

The church's views on gay marriage and sex,

0:22.9

let alone having children out of wedlock, are traditional they disapprove.

0:27.5

Tonight, the We Free's most famous daughter, Kate Forbes, is fighting for her political life.

0:33.2

She's taking part in the first hustings in the race to be the SMP's leader and thus First Minister of Scotland.

0:39.4

She was, many thought, a front-runner until she was asked about her religion.

0:44.0

She didn't duck the questions.

0:45.9

She sought such things as same-sex marriage were wrong, but she backed the law as it stood

0:51.0

and upheld people's right to do things she didn't personally approve of.

0:55.3

No matter, the internet was inflamed.

0:57.5

Key supporters deserted her.

0:59.1

Many thought she'd have no option but to withdraw from the contest, if not from politics, altogether.

1:04.1

Is this simply a case of the old religion colliding with what some see as the new religion of human rights?

1:10.4

A professed faith used to be seen as an advantage for a politician,

1:14.1

a sign of their moral compass.

1:16.2

Now it looks to be a potential barrier to office.

1:19.4

What's changed?

1:20.7

And is it for the better?

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