Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and you're listening to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

This 30-minute podcast features a new author interviewed by me every single day, 365 days a year, for about 30 minutes.

I am also the publisher for Zibi Books, which publishes 12 books a year in fiction and memoir.

Our books are already out now.

You can check it out on ZippyBooks.com.

And we have a magazine called Zibby Mag where we have lots of wonderful essays and lifestyle

features.

That's at Zibbymag.com.

We have classes at Zippy Classes.com.

And I recently opened a bookstore in L.a called zibby's bookshop

at one one one three montana avenue at 11th street in san monica i hope that you are able to

enjoy some of our other offerings but this here podcast is the basis of all of it and started in

2018 and no matter what i do this is basically my of all of it and started in 2018. And no matter what I do, this is basically

my favorite thing. Enjoy.

Lee Carpenter is the author of Iliam, a novel. Lee, by the way, is a good friend of mine,

and we went to business school together. Fun story. before I even started business school, I got an email from the school paper, The Harbis, and it said, we'd love to invite you to write for us when you get to school. And I thought, oh my gosh, this is amazing. They know I'm a writer. So I went to the meeting the first day, and there were a group of us there, all women.

And as we went around, we started saying our names, and I said, hi, I'm Zibby, and we said, I'm Lee, and someone else said, I'm Betsy, and someone else said, I'm Liz. And the editors of the paper said, we thought we'd try something funny, and we invited all the girls in the grade named Elizabeth. How random is that? So anyway, of course,

I ended up becoming arts and culture editor of the paper. I had a column and all of that, and

it ended up being super helpful for me while I was there to be able to express my feelings.

But anyway, Lee and I meant that way and became friends when I started writing my very first novel right after school.

I would drop off pages of it to Lee in her lobby and she would read them and edit them

and all of that. It ultimately didn't sell, but she was such a huge mentor to me because she

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