Welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm one of your cohosts, Katie Halper.

And I'm the other Matt Taiby. How are you doing Katie?

Good. It sounds like you were saying I'm the other Matt Taiby.

No, no, no. I'm the other host.

Hosts Matt Taiby. I'll leave you right.

Grammatically, that is what I was saying.

Yeah. Hello and welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm one of the Matt Taibies.

Right. I'm one of the Matt Taibies.

This is my cohosts Matt Taiby.

Right. Yeah.

I don't know if I was saying that. We'll have to go back and review the text.

But clearly you're right. I was saying two things at once. One of them was incorrect.

So that wasn't good. Anyway, do we have a good show this week?

Oh, yeah. With great show. We are interviewing Steven Donziger,

whose case is very, very important. He is being, how would you say, I would say persecuted,

but you're more technical and precise than I am. Definitely.

I think that's what I'm saying.

You normally talk about having a captive audience. This time we have a captive guest.

Right. He's actually, we interviewed him on, because he's under house arrest

for reasons that are absurd and we'll get into.

It's one of the craziest legal cases that you've probably never heard about

for reasons that we'll also get into.

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