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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence: Trump says he lied and rustling papers were building plans, not classified docs

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

Politics, Washington, Congress, News, Ms Now, President, Versant Media, Policy, Versant, Government, Senate

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump desperately throws out new defenses in the classified documents case. Also, the Supreme Court rejects the GOP’s bid to give legislatures unchecked power over elections. Plus, Democrats demand the Supreme Court to conduct investigations of its scandals. And ProPublica reports that a GOP billionaire paid for a Justice Samuel Alito fishing trip. Neal Katyal, Glenn Kirschner, Rep. Daniel Goldman and Jamelle Bouie join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Well, tonight there is a new Trump defense.

0:04.4

Bravado.

0:06.0

Bravado is a Spanish word which in current American English,

0:09.3

you should just means boasting, exaggerating,

0:14.9

which in legal terms means lying.

0:19.0

So the new Trump defense tonight is I was lying.

0:23.4

On this program, we pledge to bring to you as soon as it is available,

0:28.4

as we have already done, every word of Donald Trump's defense

0:34.0

in the case of United States of America versus Donald J. Trump

0:37.9

in which Donald Trump stands accused of 37 counts of violating federal law,

0:42.4

including the espionage act in his illegal possession of government documents,

0:46.8

including highly classified documents.

0:49.2

Today, Donald Trump answered questions about the two-minute audio recording

0:54.4

that flooded cable news last night, including this program.

0:58.5

The audio recording seems to reveal Donald Trump showing, holding up and showing,

1:04.9

a classified document of multiple pages that contained the American military's

1:13.1

theoretical war plan against Iran.

1:15.7

Now, the Pentagon regularly maintains and updates theoretical war plans

1:21.8

against actually most countries in the world,

1:25.0

and most of those war plans have no chance of ever being carried out.

1:30.8

But all of them are highly classified.

1:35.2

We're going to play that audio recording of Donald Trump,

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