Now it's time for the last word with Laurence O'Donnell.

Hi, Lawrence.

Hi, Alicia.

I was just listening to every word that you and Senator McCaskill had to say because I'm

sitting here kind of delighted so far on what's being reported at the New York Times because

on Tuesday night here, I got to the point where no one had any idea what was happening behind

closed doors in the Dezzylga negotiation.

So I offered a wild guess, right?

Because that's all anyone was doing.

And it's turning out to be pretty much what based on pure guesswork I came up with Tuesday

night.

And so I'm hoping this thing kind of stays in this direction.

You say it is pure guesswork, but that is also someone who is a veteran of Capitol Hill

and has seen these negotiations and knows what they look like.

And it also understands the stakes, Lawrence, right?

Because that's the most important thing here, not just the political stakes, but what

it would mean for the U.S. economy if we were to default.

And so we have a Congressman Jim McGuverin, the former chairman of the House Rules Committee,

the all-important House Rules Committee, now the top Democrat on the committee joining

us tonight.

And we'll get the update from him as best he can reveal it at this point of exactly what

the state of play is on this Dezzylga about which I am even more excited than I was

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