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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence: Trump becomes first former President to testify as a defendant in his own trial

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

Politics, Washington, Congress, News, Ms Now, President, Versant Media, Policy, Versant, Government, Senate

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump testifies in the E. Jean Carroll defamation suit. Also, the Biden-Harris campaign focuses on battleground Wisconsin. Plus, Brian Klaas says Trump benefits from “the banality of crazy.” And a new film reimagines Isabel Wilkerson’s book, “Caste.” Andrew Weissmann, Faith Gay, Ben Wikler, and Ava DuVernay also join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Well, by the time Donald Trump took the witness stand today in the case of E. Jean Carroll versus

0:06.5

Donald Trump, the questions his lawyer would be allowed to ask him were already worked

0:11.5

out in detail in discussions with the judge and the

0:14.8

lawyers on both sides of the case while the jury was out of the courtroom.

0:19.1

Judge Lewis Kaplan instructed Donald Trump's defense lawyers once again that Donald Trump

0:24.6

would not be allowed in his testimony to contest the fact that he raped E. Jean Carroll

0:30.4

in the department store in Manhattan.

0:32.2

Judge Kaplan told the lawyers that the jury in the previous E. Jean Carroll lawsuit

0:37.6

in the same courtroom found that Donald Trump did in fact sexually assault E. Jean Carroll and that was not an issue

0:45.3

before this jury whose duty is solely to decide how much in money damages Donald

0:50.4

Trump should pay E. Jean Carroll.

0:52.6

Judge Kaplan told the Trump lawyers,

0:55.3

the jury will be instructed that regardless of what he says in court here today,

1:01.0

he did it as far as they're concerned. That is the law. Donald Trump's

1:07.0

lawyer, Alina Haba, then told the judge she only wanted to ask three questions.

1:12.0

One, does Donald Trump stand by the testimony he gave in

1:15.3

his deposition? Two, why did he deny attacking E. Jean Carroll? And three, did he tell

1:21.9

anyone to harm E. Jean Carroll?

1:25.0

After lengthy discussions, the judge said that the Trump lawyer could ask the first question and the third question, but not the second question.

1:33.0

The question that the judge ruled out was,

1:36.0

why did you deny sexually assaulting Eugene Carroll?

1:40.0

With the ground rule set, the judge brought the jury into the courtroom and now that we have the transcript at this late hour, we finally know what was said.

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