Lawrence: Sen. Kelly puts Pete Hegseth on the defensive by making him a defendant
The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell
Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW
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🗓️ 13 January 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Well, the Wall Street Journal is calling it lawfare for dummies. |
| 0:04.1 | That's the Wall Street Journal editorial boards assessment of Donald Trump's use of a criminal |
| 0:07.7 | investigation by the Trump Justice Department of the chairman of the Federal Reserve. |
| 0:13.0 | Over the weekend, Jerome Powell became the first Fed chair in history to have to publicly explain |
| 0:19.0 | that the president is insane. |
| 0:22.2 | He did that in the form of a video announcing that the Trump Justice Department has issued |
| 0:27.0 | investigative subpoenas to him because he has not agreed with Donald Trump's assessment |
| 0:32.1 | of exactly where interest rates should be during the Trump presidency. |
| 0:38.3 | Senator Elizabeth Warren described this absurd attack on the Federal Reserve and |
| 0:43.2 | Jerome Powell today in an important speech that she delivered off campus from the United |
| 0:48.2 | States Senate at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. |
| 0:51.2 | And after that speech, Donald Trump suddenly, from out of nowhere, |
| 0:57.6 | called Senator Warren. Senator Warren will tell us about that phone call when she joins us during |
| 1:03.4 | this hour, and in another case of lawfare for dummies, Harvard University taught Donald Trump |
| 1:08.5 | and his Justice Department many lessons. |
| 1:16.7 | When Harvard went to court to block Donald Trump's attempt to not just cut research funding at Harvard University, but to completely take over the university. |
| 1:19.9 | Donald Trump, who now calls himself the acting president of Venezuela in a flight of |
| 1:24.8 | derangement, was trying to become the president of Harvard, which is |
| 1:29.3 | older than both Venezuela and the United States of America. |
| 1:32.3 | While other universities like Colombia disgraced themselves forever, by allowing Donald |
| 1:37.3 | Trump to seize some control of those universities, Harvard fought back and won in every way, |
| 1:43.3 | including foreign students. Donald Trump |
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