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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence: Secret White House meetings won’t end Trump’s Epstein crisis.

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

NBC News

Policy, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Trump officials met at the White House and discussed Jeffrey Epstein. Also, The New York Times reports Donald Trump delayed a Medicare change after receiving a $5 million donation. And Trump adopts Project 2025’s warped view of U.S history. Lisa Rubin, Ken Vogel, and David Blight join Lawrence O’Donnell.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The last word with Lawrence O'Donnell starts right now. Hey Lawrence. Hey, Jen. And I say this for you

0:06.3

and the control room. As I was just listening to you, your volume was going up and down on my end of it.

0:13.9

So I'm hoping that we are going to fix that. But it's not going to be a problem at all for the beginning of this program

0:22.1

because... Because you're going to talk loud? Well, no, because Lisa Rubin is joining me in the studio

0:26.3

so I can hear her with my actual in-the-room ears instead of the... Through the wires ears. And so it's all

0:34.3

going to work. It's all going to be fine. Good. That's the thing with technology. It's not always perfect. We do the best we can, right? And it's working right now.

0:43.4

So I should get to it while it's working. Get to it. Thanks, Jen. Thank you. Well, the dinner meeting

0:51.5

scheduled for Vice President's residence last night about the Epstein

0:55.5

situation didn't happen at the Vice President's residence, thanks to a leak from inside

1:02.5

the Trump White House, the Trump administration that indicated Vice President Vance planned

1:07.9

a dinner meeting at his residence last night with White House

1:12.9

Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, the Trump FBI director, the Trump Attorney General, and the Trump

1:17.1

Deputy Attorney General, who was Donald Trump's personal criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche,

1:24.3

who is the only criminal defense lawyer in history to represent a president of the

1:31.3

United States in a trial where that person was convicted of crimes by a jury of his peers.

1:39.6

NBC News is reporting that no gathering occurred last night at the Vice President's residence,

1:45.7

which was the worst possible choice of venue for such a meeting because it is so easy

1:52.3

for the press to just stake out the driveway there to monitor the entrance of the Vice President's

1:58.7

residents to see who's coming to dinner. NBC News is reporting

2:03.3

that a group did meet to discuss the Epstein situation at the White House last night, which is the

2:10.1

way that meeting should have been planned in the first place. But it's important to note that

2:15.0

even then, even when they kept it indoors at the White House with

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