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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence: Jack Smith uses Trump lawyer's TV appearances against Trump

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

Politics, Washington, Congress, News, Ms Now, President, Versant Media, Policy, Versant, Government, Senate

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Special Counsel Jack Smith responds to the Trump protective order motion. Also, The New York Times reports Justice Clarence Thomas’s $267K RV is financed by a wealthy health care executive. And a Tennessee Democrat who was expelled after participating in a gun protest wins back his seat. Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Harry Litman, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse and TN State Rep. Justin J. Pearson join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Well, we've had a flurry of motions filed tonight by Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyers

0:04.9

and by Special Prosecutor Jack Smith in the newest criminal prosecution of Donald Trump

0:09.2

in Washington, D.C., and we have a lot of new TV statements from Donald Trump's criminal

0:14.0

defense lawyer John Loro, who has declined our standing invitation to appear on this program,

0:20.1

but decided to do several political chat shows this weekend. Our legal team of

0:25.6

under Weissman, Neil Katyal and Harry Lippman are here to see if they can do what I couldn't do,

0:31.8

which is find anything in what John Loro said on television that sounds like it could be an

0:38.5

effective legal defense in the courtroom against the charges Special Prosecutor Jack Smith has brought

0:45.2

against Donald Trump for conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an

0:49.8

official proceeding, obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding. Before we get to

0:54.8

the video of John Loro's weekend TV loyering, the breaking news of the night is the exchange

1:00.4

of motions in federal court in Washington, D.C. tonight with Special Prosecutor Jack Smith

1:05.8

filing his response motion tonight. A few hours after Trump criminal defense lawyer John Loro met

1:13.4

the 5PN deadline for his team's legal filing. The argument in these motions is about what evidence

1:22.4

in the case, Ken Donald Trump and his defense lawyers make public. Special Prosecutor Jack Smith

1:29.8

is asking for protective order on basically all of the evidence that the prosecution hands over

1:35.2

to the defense and the discovery process and the Trump defense is asking the judge to quote,

1:40.5

shield only genuinely sensitive materials from public view. The Trump defense team response

1:46.1

acknowledges that grand jury testimony would have to remain secret and then makes suggested changes

1:53.6

to Jack Smith's proposed protective order that might seem like small changes. Here's an example

2:00.1

of the changes, the way they look on paper. John Loro and his team recommending to the judge

2:06.3

their their their changes are in red and as you can see most of what Jack Smith is asking for

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