The last word with Lawrence O'Donnell starts right now.

Hey, Lawrence.

Hey, Jen.

You were a former communications professional in the political world.

What do you call it when a politician who's trying to get away from a scandal keeps talking about the scandal?

Evasion, self-impulsion.

I mean, it is a 101 whatnot to do.

I know.

Chris and I were talking about this, Lawrence.

We might still be talking about it

because the right wing and the manosphere

is running away from Trump, but he keeps talking about it. So we're going to keep talking about it because the right wing and the manosphere is running away from Trump,

but he keeps talking about it. So we're going to keep talking about it because it is news.

And there's more things that keep coming out about it. So here we are. And we know that he

doesn't want us to talk about it, which is always a good guideline for what we should be talking

about. But for me, what's so fascinating about it is

we've been kind of staring at this Trump political phenomenon, wondering what could break it

apart, could anything break it apart? And in politics, you break it apart if you just reduce it by

5%. That's all it takes. That's the same thing as zero, because if it drops

5% support, it can't possibly win anything. And his, he is right now in a real separation,

anxiety situation with some of his most fervent previous supporters.

We've always seen them come back in the fold.

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