Lawrence: After report of Hegseth's 'kill everybody' order, Trump's first instinct was to lie

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

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4.4 • 5.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Fallout grows over a report of Pete Hegseth’s alleged order to “kill everybody.” Also, Rachel Maddow’s latest podcast, “Burn Order,” explores the WWII incarceration of Japanese Americans. And Amanda Gorman takes on a new role as a UNICEF Ambassador. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, Rachel Maddow, and Amanda Gorman join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0	Now it is time for the last word with the great Lawrence.
0:03.7	Oh, Donald, good evening, Lawrence.
0:05.8	Good evening, Rachel.
0:06.5	And you know what I have not done today?
0:08.9	Uh-oh.
0:09.9	I have not listened to your new podcast yet.
0:13.6	Oh, okay.
0:15.5	But here's an idea.
0:18.9	You got nothing to do after the show.
0:20.9	Why don't you just run down the hall, come in here and perform the podcast for me.
0:27.2	I got a chair.
0:27.8	I got an empty chair right here for you.
0:30.2	Just do it as like a teleplay?
0:32.8	Just kind of.
0:33.2	Yeah, just do a reading?
0:35.8	Sure.
0:36.7	Okay.
0:36.9	I'll play FDR or something. Okay. I'll tell you what it's about in the commercial break, Lawrence. Don't worry. All right. We'll come up with something. There's a chair right here. They can show you where the studio is. It's right down. I'll be right there. Okay. We're going to have room. Come on over. Okay, thanks. Thank you, Rachel. Thanks. Thank you. I'll be right there. Okay, great. We're going to have a right. Come on over.
0:55.0	Thank you, Rachel.
0:56.0	Thanks.
0:57.0	I'm serious.
0:58.0	Rachel will join us.
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