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Outside/In

Lawn and Order

Outside/In

NHPR

Science, Renewable Energy, Energy, Documentary, Outdoor Recreation, Environment, Climate, Public Radio, Wildlife, Nature, Natural World, Ecology, Society & Culture, Human Interest Stories, Wildlife Management, Biology, Outdoors, Wilderness, Natural Sciences

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Americans love a lawn. But keeping the grass green comes at a cost — especially in the desert.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, you're listening to Outside In, a show where curiosity and the natural world collide.

0:05.2

I'm Nate Hedgy.

0:09.0

This past weekend, I went down to see the in-laws.

0:11.2

They live in the suburbs of southern New Hampshire, in a neighborhood with emaculately cared-for green lawns.

0:17.1

I mean, the kind of lawns that a dad would spend hours in the summer tending to.

0:21.4

And it reminded me of this episode we produced back in 2022 on America's obsession with grass.

0:27.5

It's an oldie but a goodie, and we're going to play it today.

0:29.9

Enjoy.

0:35.6

It's the spring of 2020, the early days of the pandemic. It's the spring of 2020, the early days of the pandemic.

0:41.8

People are howling for health care workers.

0:46.8

Watching Tiger King on Netflix.

0:48.7

Hi, everybody.

0:49.5

My name is Jos Maldonato, otherwise known as Joe Exotic.

0:53.2

But mainly, like, being stuck at home.

0:55.5

I realized I had a lot of time in my hands, and I had a lot of thoughts.

0:58.7

That's where Malin Curry found himself.

1:01.2

20-something years old, back from college, living with his parents, North Carolina.

1:05.7

And he starts thinking, like, why the hell is my dad out almost every day working on his lawn?

1:11.6

You know, nobody's out.

1:12.5

There's no reason to want to make your lawn look perfect.

1:15.8

And, you know, have these, like, lattice, you know, fields and all that stuff.

1:19.2

There's no reason for that if nobody's going to be out.

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