Hello and welcome back to Maine Justice. It is Tuesday morning, November 25th. I'm Andrew

Weissman and I'm here with my co-host, Mary McCord. And before we begin, I just want to wish

everybody a wonderful, wonderful Thanksgiving. And it is my absolute favorite holiday. And so I wish everyone

has a wonderful time. It's like family gets together and it's all about doing it. I mean,

just really good food. But also, it's such a nice thing that there is a national time to give thanks.

So I'm going to give thanks to two things. One, I want to

give thanks to being able to do this podcast with you and to be supported by such a great team.

And the others, I want to just thank all of our listeners. We do this for you, but you do it for us. I need to second that thanks to you,

to our team of producers and sound engineers and everyone at MS Now and also to all the listeners.

Yes, we are grateful. Sometimes when I am cramming, reading all weekend, all Monday night,

early Tuesday morning, I feel less thankful. But once we start

the recording, I'm like, let's go. Let's do this. You know what it's like? Both of us have done

trials. Yeah, it's like that. You know, before trial, I mean, it is, people think, oh, isn't it a lot of fun?

I mean, I used to tell people who are

applying for the job I'd be like at the time the trial starts is when you want to just

curl up and bed and go to sleep because you are just put through the ringer particularly

on the government side in private practice when you have a lot more help it's easier but

you know usually kind of by yourself on. But, you know, with all of that said,

you're usually kind of by yourself on the government side. Yes, exactly. But with all of that said,

when the trial starts and you are presenting and you stand up and you say, Andrew Wiseman,

on behalf of the United States, and you feel that responsibility. There's no experience like that and

it's such a privilege. I also think at that point, a lot of the stress is off, particularly for an

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