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The Ricochet Podcast

Lawless Education

The Ricochet Podcast

Ricochet

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The pitiful state of university sociology departments is an unfortunate thing, but to see tantrums at elite law schools over "controversial" speakers portends danger — or so says Ilya Shapiro, author of Lawless: The Miseducation of America’s Elites. He and the fellas discuss the illiberal takeover of higher education, most troublingly in the institutions that train the gatekeepers of our legal system. 

Plus, James, Charles, and Steve speculate on the midterms; see the potential for backfire from Virginia's redistricting referendum; smell controversy over the latest victory for the refer movement; and begrudgingly admit the Americanness of gambling with top secrets.

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0:00.0

Ask not what your country can do for you.

0:05.0

Ask what you can do for your country.

0:08.0

Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.

0:12.0

Was he betting that they would get him or they wouldn't get him?

0:15.0

It sounds like he was betting on his removal from office.

0:19.0

That's not so much he was involved in the operation. That's like Pete Rose betting on his own team. It's a little like Pete Rose. I'll look into it. It's The Rickusay podcast with Stephen Hayward, Charles Cook. I'm James Lyle. We're going to talk to Elyor Shapiro about all things legal. Oh, trust me, it's fun. Let's have ourselves a podcast welcome everybody it's the ricochet

0:40.1

podcast number 786 i'm james lilacs in minneapolis on a beautiful spring day the flowered trees

0:46.4

are blooming and stephen heyward i assume is in california charles a c w cook in florida we span

0:52.1

the continents gentlemen how are you today?

0:55.8

I'm okay.

0:56.5

I'm okay.

0:57.4

How are you doing?

0:58.0

I'm good.

0:59.0

It's a very British answer.

1:00.3

It could be worse.

1:01.3

Okay, right, right.

1:02.2

Compared to what?

1:02.9

Could be a rabid hedgehog about.

1:06.2

Let's get right to it.

1:08.7

gerrymandering,

1:09.5

one of those things that people seem to, whenever somebody talks about it and

1:15.2

say, we can't gerrymander, the Republicans are trying to gerrymander.

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