Lawfare Daily: Tomahawks, Trump, and Armed Neutrality for Ukraine

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🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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In this episode, Lawfare’s Ukraine Fellow Anastasiia Lapatina sits down with Eric Ciaramella, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Mykhailo Soldatenko, a scholar of international law and a doctoral candidate at Harvard Law School, to discuss the latest meeting between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky, armed neutrality for Ukraine, and how Ukraine can nudge the ongoing peace negotiations in its favor.

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0:00.0	Mia?
0:01.0	Yeah?
0:02.0	Don't forget flu vaccine today.
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0:40.3	nine of the most wanted McDonald's menu items from around the world, now in the UK.
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0:54.1	I think there has been way too much credulous belief that the Russians are just ready to make a deal.
1:02.9	And Putin wants to end the war.
1:04.8	And if only we could just get the Ukrainians and the Russians in the room and this bad blood between the two leaders is the only thing stopping
1:11.1	this brilliant, beautiful deal. That is not a smart way to go about this.
1:16.2	It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Anastasia Lapatina, Ukraine fellow at Lawfare, with Eric
1:22.4	Cheramela, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Mikhailo Soldatenko, a scholar of international law
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