Lawfare Daily: Tom Brzozowski on Domestic Terrorism Investigations and Prosecutions
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🗓️ 30 December 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Senior Editor Michael Feinberg and Tom Brzozowski, formerly of the Justice Department, sit down to talk over recent changes set in motion by the White House and Justice Department with respect to domestic terrorism investigations and prosecutions, and sound a warning from history at how these changes hearken back to pre-Church Committee practices.
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| 1:33.6 | You know, when you have such a vague, nebulous concept, such as Antifa, you can really sort of project anything you want onto that and technically be accurate, |
| 1:39.3 | because it's sort of a catch-all for everything you want it to be. But it's actually nothing |
| 1:43.1 | at the same time. So it's a bit of a paradox. It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Michael Feinberg, senior editor at Lawfare, |
| 1:50.9 | with Tom Brzeowski, who up until very recently headed domestic terrorism prosecutions and |
| 1:57.7 | efforts at the Department of Justice. These folks operating, I'm not assigning any sort of malign intent to any of these entities. |
| 2:05.6 | FBI, HSI, CBP, ICE, any of them. Local PD for sure. That's not what I'm getting at here at all. |
| 2:13.6 | They're simply reacting to incentives and direction from above. They are like a loaded |
| 2:20.2 | weapon with a ton of authority, a ton of latent authority that's sitting there is simply being |
| 2:24.7 | pointed in a particular direction. Today we are talking about Attorney General Bondi's new |
| 2:31.0 | memo with respect to investigations of Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. |
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