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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, May 9

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🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on May 9, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Quinta Jurecic, and Roger Parloff, Lawfare Legal Fellow James Pearce, and Lawfare contributor Preston Marquis to discuss the status of the civil litigation against President Trump’s executive actions, including the order for the release of Rümeysa Öztürk, litigation over ideological deportations, legal challenge to the funding freeze targeting Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and more.

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0:25.2

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0:35.7

We heard from Oz Turk herself, who testified actually a much longer hearing than I thought it would be.

0:44.0

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, with Lawfare Senior editors, Anna Bauer, Quinta Jurecic, and Roger Parloff, legal fellow James Pierce,

0:58.1

and contributor, Preston Marquis. In a live recording on May 9th, we discussed the status of

1:06.0

the many pieces of civil litigation against President Trump's executive actions,

1:11.7

including the order for the release of Rameza-Az-Turk,

1:15.7

the Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty, funding freeze litigation,

1:20.6

the Supreme Court's order in the ban on transgender service members,

1:25.6

and so much more.

1:27.5

Even though the government had requested a stay of this order, the judge said no.

1:33.2

I order that Ms. Ozturk be immediately released.

1:38.9

It is Friday, May 9th.

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It is 4 o'clock p.m.

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And you are watching Lawfare Live.

1:46.7

I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, here with Roger Parloff from the Scantz

1:54.2

studio.

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Hey, Roger.

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Hello.

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