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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Dec. 12

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🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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In a live conversation on YouTube, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Molly Roberts, and Eric Columbus and Lawfare Public Service Fellow Loren Voss to discuss next week's contempt hearings in J.G.G. v. Trump, the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from ICE custody, domestic deployments litigation, and moreYou can find information on legal challenges to Trump administration actions here. And check out Lawfare’s new homepage on the litigation, new Bluesky account, and new WITOAD merch.To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare. You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute.

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0:00.0

It is Friday, December 12th, 2020.

0:14.3

It is 404 p.m. in Washington, D.C., and you are watching Lawfare Live. Our weekly roundup of all the

0:25.5

Michigas that takes place in United States federal courts and elsewhere involving litigation

0:33.4

over the Trump trials and tribulations. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare,

0:40.8

and I am here with not one, not two,

0:44.2

but three Lawfare senior editors,

0:47.0

Anna Bauer, Eric Columbus, and Molly Roberts,

0:50.6

and one, count her,

0:53.2

Lawfare Public Service Fellow fellow Lauren Voss.

0:55.0

Hello all.

0:58.0

Hello.

0:59.0

Um, Anna, get us started.

1:04.0

So many developments in these cases for JGG as Ben was saying for those who don't remember, this is the case before Judge Boseberg in D.C. that involved the Alien Enemies Act planes that Judge Bozberg said, you know, Drew Inzine, make sure that those planes, if they're already in the air, they're returned to the United States.

1:29.6

And then he issued a written order to that effect.

1:33.0

Plains took off anyway and continued on to El Salvador after stopping in a third country at one point.

1:46.1

And Judge Bosberg, you know, initiated contempt proceedings.

1:50.4

There was a whole appeal up to the DC Circuit that then went on Bonk.

1:59.0

Eventually, it came back to Judgeasberg to continue his probable cause proceedings.

2:06.5

And as a result, this week, Judge Bozberg ruled and ordered that, sorry, the chaos in the guest appearances are kind of tripping me up,

2:22.7

and it's so funny. So apologies, apologies that I'm doing a terrible job explaining this.

2:27.9

But Judge Bosberg this week ordered that Drew Ensign and also Res Ruveni, who's a former DOJ employee,

2:38.1

who is now a whistleblower, who's come forward with a number of allegations regarding what

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