Lawfare Daily: The Supreme Court’s Long Shadow with Steve Vladeck and Kate Klonick
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🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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On May 7, Lawfare Senior Editor Kate Klonick sat down for a live discussion on Substack with Steve Vladeck, a professor of law at the Georgetown University Law Center, to discuss the impact of the New York Times’ “shadow papers” story, the continued omnipresence of the shadow docket, and the courts v. Court in this administration.
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| 1:23.8 | I don't blame any of the justices for how broader shifts in, you know, litigation that I think are mostly Congress's fault have put more pressure on the federal courts writ large. |
| 1:34.7 | That doesn't mean that the lower courts are getting these cases wrong such that the justices have to be intervening so often. |
| 1:41.4 | It doesn't mean that the court has to, you know, sort of upset the status |
| 1:45.9 | quo in ways it never had before. |
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| 1:52.7 | I'm Kate Cullinic, senior editor of Lawfare with Steve Vladick, Professor George Sean Law, |
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