Lawfare Daily: The Proposed New FARA Regulations, with DOJ Official Jennifer Gellie
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🗓️ 14 January 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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For today’s episode, Jennifer Gellie, the Chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section ("CES") in the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice, sits down with Lawfare Senior Editor and General Counsel Scott R. Anderson and Lawfare Contributing Editor and Morrison Foerster partner Brandon Van Grack to discuss new proposed regulations her office has issued for implementing the Foreign Agents Registration Act ("FARA").
They cover how the role of FARA has changed in recent decades, what the new regulations change and leave the same, and what the Justice Department's FARA-related priorities are likely to be in 2025.
This episode is part of the “The Regulators” series, in which Brandon and Scott sit down with senior U.S. officials working at the front lines of U.S. national security and economic statecraft.
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| 1:31.1 | within the National Security Division of the U.S. Department of Justice. |
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| 1:56.9 | Today, we're discussing the proposed new regulations the Justice Department has rolled out for implementing Farah, the Foreign Agents Registration Act. |
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