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Lawfare Daily: The Pentagon Designates Anthropic as a Supply Chain Risk

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🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on March 2, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes spoke to Lawfare Senior Editor and Research Director Alan Rozenshtein about the Pentagon's designation of AI company Anthropic as a supply chain risk, the implications of a designation, how other AI companies have reacted, and the legal challenges the designation may face.

Read Rozenshtein’s article on the topic, co-authored with Michael Endrias, here.

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0:00.0

The Electronic Communications Privacy Act turns 40 this year, and it's showing its age.

0:06.0

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0:16.6

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0:23.2

Visit lawfaremedia.org slash ECPA event.

0:26.4

That's lawfaremedia.org slash ECPA event for details and to register.

0:35.0

It is completely insane to simultaneously say this product is so important we're going to force you to give it to us.

0:43.7

It's so safe that we're going to use it during an active military engagement.

0:48.5

And it's so dangerous that we're going to burn you to the ground.

0:52.9

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare,

0:57.9

with Lawfare Senior Editor and Research Director Alan Rosenstein.

1:03.5

So it's quite possible that, you know, the people that are in good faith,

1:07.9

assuming that when the government says, oh, yeah, according to law and practice and regulation and this DoD guideline, we're not going to autonomous weapons.

1:13.8

Like that protects them.

1:15.6

And DOD is saying, okay, that's great for us because we can change the guidelines.

1:19.2

In a live recording on March 2nd, we talked about the Pentagon's designation of AI company

1:26.6

Anthropic as a supply chain risk, the reaction from

1:31.2

Anthropic and other AI companies and the legal challenges the designation is surely going to face.

1:39.4

I am here with Lawfare Senior Editor Alan Alan Rosenstein, Professor at the University of Minnesota Law School,

1:48.8

and Sudden expert on procurement law.

1:55.3

Alan, how did you spend your weekend?

1:58.8

Reading a lot of procurement law.

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