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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Daily: The Israel/Iran Conflict: What Do We Know So Far?

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett discussed the ongoing hostilities between Israel and Iran with Suzanne Maloney, Director of the Foreign Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, and Joel Braunold, Managing Director of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace. They talked about how the conflict is unfolding, the nature of U.S. involvement, and why, after so many years of tensions, Israel chose this moment to attack. Although the conflict began only a few days ago, on June 13, it’s already clear that it has the potential to dramatically change the regional and international dynamics of the Middle East.

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And they also were watching the prospect of these negotiations and the outcome that might have left some portion of Iran's nuclear

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program intact. So I think it was both the weakness, but also the potential rearming and

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re-strengthening of Iran that created this moment for the Israeli leadership. This was a window

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of opportunity that they could not let elapse. It's the Lawfare podcast.

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I'm Natalie Orpet, executive editor of Lawfare, with Suzanne Maloney of the Brookings Institution

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and Joel Brunold of the Abraham Center for Middle East Peace.

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I think everyone in the world took Iran as a fact.

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