Lawfare Daily: Teun Janssen on Ukraine and a Big Europe

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🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Teun Jansenn is a staff member at the European Parliament who works on issues of EU expansion and support for Ukraine. He joined Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk about the prospects of Europe's stepping up for Ukraine as the United States backs away. He also talked about why EU enlargement is essential to getting EU governance under control and the role that Ukraine might play in that process.

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