Lawfare Daily: Presidential Immunity at the Supreme Court
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🗓️ 26 April 2024
⏱️ 54 minutes
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In today's Lawfare Podcast, Lawfare Executive Editor Natalie Orpett sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Quinta Jurecic, Roger Parloff, and Alan Rosenstein. In a live conversation recorded less than an hour after Supreme Court Oral Arguments concluded, they discussed presidential immunity, and whether former president Trump is immune from prosecution for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
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| 0:30.0 | We're going to look at the facts, we're not going to look at motive, but we're going to look at |
| 0:36.2 | Trump's actions objectively and evaluate, are these more like the actions of a candidate, |
| 0:42.0 | or are they more like the actions of a candidate or are they more like the actions of a sitting president? |
| 0:45.0 | And looking at that, the DC Circuit said basically this guy was acting as a candidate trying to win office and therefore no immunity. |
| 0:54.8 | It's the Law Fair Podcast. |
| 0:56.6 | I'm Natalie Orpete, executive editor of Law Fair |
| 0:59.4 | with my colleagues Law Fair Senior editors |
| 1:01.8 | Quinta Jurassic, Roger Parloff, and Alan |
| 1:04.4 | Rosenstein. Most of the conduct alleged in the indictment is not official. It's |
| 1:10.2 | personal. Everyone seems to agree that personal actions don't get any sort of immunity, |
| 1:15.2 | but if that's the case then this whole debate over exactly what sort of immunity does |
| 1:20.2 | official conduct get is a bit beside the point because even if they say |
| 1:24.5 | sure the official conduct gets immunity Jack Smith still has a ton of personal |
| 1:29.6 | conduct that he could charge Trump with. Today we're bringing you our live discussion of Supreme Court oral argument in Trump the United States, |
| 1:38.0 | recorded yesterday, less than an hour after arguments concluded. |
| 1:41.0 | This is the case asking whether former President Trump is |
| 1:44.2 | immune from prosecution and it arises out of Special Counsel Jack Smith's |
| 1:48.3 | indictment of Trump in DC District Court for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. |
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