Lawfare Daily: OpenAI’s Shutdown of State-Backed Information Operations with Alex Iftimie

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🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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On today’s episode, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sits down with Alex Iftimie, a Deputy General Counsel at OpenAI, to talk over their recent report revealing that OpenAI has shut down several state-backed information operations using OpenAI’s artificial technology services. They discussed the operations themselves, how OpenAI is investigating and responding to such activities, and what they tell us about how the nascent artificial intelligence industry is impacting state-backed information operations, among other types of problematic behavior.

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0:31.0	Another thing that's different is the reach of these influence operations,
0:37.0	notwithstanding the fact that they're making use of AI tools to generate better content, more polished content.
0:46.3	Their reach is nowhere close to where it was a few years ago.
0:51.7	It's the Lawfare Podcast. I'm Scott R Anderson, senior editor here at Lawfair, with returning
0:56.2	guests Alex Istamie, who's now a deputy general counsel at Open AI. Our platforms are not the ones where this content is going to be distributed and liked and shared further with other third parties and so we have to be able to collaborate with those kinds of content distributors to
1:15.3	disrupt these networks before they reach a critical mass of followers.
1:21.2	Today we're talking about Open AI's recent report revealing that it has shut down
1:24.2	several state-backed information operations using its technology and what it tells us
1:28.7	about how artificial intelligence is changing this challenging policy landscape.
1:33.0	So Alex, last week, Open AI released a pretty interesting report,
1:38.0	a document that got a lot of media pickup, has a lot of people paying attention to an issue that I think we all knew is going to come to the
1:45.9	four at some point, but I think is now really burst its way into the public attention in part because of the
1:51.5	writing Open A. Aye has done on it and that is the use of AI in a number of
1:56.1	influence operations by foreign governments that Open AI has been involved in kind of
2:01.3	shutting down at this point.
2:03.0	Tell us a little bit about this report
2:06.0	and why it's coming forth at this point.
2:08.0	You note in the report that you have five case studies
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