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Lawfare Daily: Michael Feinberg on Leaving the FBI

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4.7 β€’ 6.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Until late May, Michael Feinberg was a senior FBI counterintelligence agent focused on China. All that changed one weekend, when the Deputy FBI Director found out that he was still friends with a former FBI official who had been fired years ago. In his first interview following his essay, β€œGoodbye to All That,” in Lawfare last week. Feinberg sat down with Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to discuss his career, his resignation, and the climate inside the Bureau.

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