Lawfare Daily: Larry Lessig on the Right to Warn of AI Dangers
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🗓️ 25 June 2024
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Larry Lessig, Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership at the Harvard Law School, joins Kevin Frazier, a Tarbell Fellow at Lawfare, to discuss the open letter published by 13 current or former AI lab employees calling for a Right to Warn of AI dangers. This conversation dives into Lessig's representation of some of those employees as they push for a Right to Warn of AI dangers, the potential scope of that right, and the need for such a right in the first place. All signs suggest this won't be the last deep dive into the dangers posed by AI and the responsibility of AI labs and employees to prevent those dangers.
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| 0:30.0 | The concern that many people inside the industry have is that when they recognize there's a risk and they recognize there's no effective regulator out there who's going to do anything about it, they at least need the opportunity to say something. |
| 0:47.0 | It's the Law Fair Podcast. I'm Kevin Frazier, a Tarbell fellow at Law Fair, with Larryig Roy L. Furman professor of law and |
| 0:55.0 | leadership at the Harvard Law School. If they said look we want to encourage |
| 0:59.6 | a culture of criticism not because we think we're wrong, but because we're confident we'll be right |
| 1:05.6 | if there is a culture of criticism that keeps us honest. |
| 1:09.7 | I would think companies would benefit enormously. Today we're talking about the right to warn, |
| 1:16.0 | a recently proposed idea by AI employees |
| 1:20.0 | currently and formally employed |
| 1:22.0 | by some of the leading AI labs. |
| 1:24.7 | Let's set the stage and you'll need to hang with me because it is an elaborate stage. |
| 1:31.0 | So just a few weeks ago the open AI team tasked with making sure |
| 1:34.7 | AI systems aligned with societal interests and followed human intent dissolved. |
| 1:40.8 | It was then made public that Open AI had employee agreements in place that they would not |
| 1:46.3 | disparage the company. Word also spread that the company had threatened to cancel employees |
| 1:52.0 | vested equity if they didn't adhere to these agreements. |
| 1:55.2 | Then on June 4th a group of current and former employees at leading AI companies such as |
| 2:01.6 | Open AI and Google Deepmind issued an open letter calling for |
| 2:06.2 | a right to warn about risks posed by advanced artificial intelligence. |
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