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Lawfare Daily: Juliette Kayyem on the New Critical Infrastructure Memo

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🗓️ 8 May 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

The White House on April 30 released a “National Security Memorandum on Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience.” According to the White House, the memo marks the beginning of a new comprehensive initiative to safeguard U.S. infrastructure against current threats and those on the horizon. The Department of Homeland Security is tasked with leading this effort—through coordination with other federal agencies, states and localities, and private-sector actors.

Lawfare Research Fellow Matt Gluck discussed the memo and what it reveals about the U.S. strategy for protecting its critical infrastructure with Juliette Kayyem, a Professor of International Security at the Harvard Kennedy School. What does it mean to share responsibility and information in this context? How does geopolitics affect the United States’ approach to protecting critical infrastructure? Which types of infrastructure are more closely tied to national security than others?

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aftermath.

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There will always be Black Swan events, but in some ways you're kind of ready for

0:36.8

them if you prepare for your sort of your generic high consequence events.

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It's the Law Fair Podcast. of your generic high consequence events.

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It's the Law Fair Podcast. I'm Matt Gluck, research fellow at Law Fair with Juliet Chaim,

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professor of international security at the Harvard Kennedy School.

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You kind of want to make our response capabilities as nurtured and mature as our prevention capabilities.

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Today we're talking about the new national security memo on critical infrastructure

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and what it reveals about the US government's efforts

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to protect its most important

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domestic systems?

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So what leads to the release of the kind of document

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that we're talking about today?

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Well, a lot of interagency discussions.

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I have been hearing about this document,

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National Security Memorandum 22 for some time.

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It reflects an update to a similar memorandum by the Obama administration on critical infrastructure.

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A lot of it, and I don't mean this harshly, it's just the way government works.

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