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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Daily: How Technologists Can Help Regulators with Erie Meyer and Laura Edelson

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Erie Meyer, Senior Fellow at Georgetown Law’s Institute for Technology Law & Policy and Senior Fellow at the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator, and Laura Edelson, Assistant Professor of Computer Science at Northeastern University, who are coauthors of the recent toolkit, “Working with Technologists: Recommendations for State Enforcers and Regulators,” join Lawfare’s Justin Sherman to discuss how state enforcers and regulators can hire and better work with technologists, what technologists are and are not best-suited to help with, and what roles technologists can play across the different phases of enforcer and regulator casework. They also discuss how to best attract technologists to enforcement and regulation jobs; tips for technologists seeking to better communicate with those lawyers, compliance experts, and others in government with less technology background; and how this all fits into the future of AI, technology, and state and broader regulation.

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0:00.0

Gina's a muncher.

0:02.3

Jackson Nippler.

0:04.5

Lucy likes to linger.

0:08.1

But not for too long.

0:10.2

And Harry?

0:11.9

Thank you, Harry.

0:13.5

Mikado is the crunchy biscuit stick dipped in smooth milk chocolate

0:17.3

and makes other biscuits look so ordinary.

0:20.3

Mikado is deliciously Moorish.

0:22.5

However you enjoy it, make every day more Macado.

0:26.4

Grab a pack in your local store today.

0:28.5

Find Macardo in the Biscuit Isle.

0:30.5

We are the future.

0:32.2

Hear us.

0:33.1

It's our tomorrow you're building today.

0:35.8

When you create technology, put us at its heart. Think differently

0:39.8

to build a better working world. Be confident. Do not allow the future to shape you, shape it.

0:47.9

And shape it for the better, if not for yourselves, for us. How will your decisions today shape the future for generations to come?

0:57.4

EY, shape the future with confidence.

1:04.5

Having a technologist on your team can help the conversation go.

1:08.4

Here is the sample that we have designed to prove to you that we're

1:11.8

not doing anything wrong, too. We will just simply take all of the data. Something like sampling

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