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Lawfare Daily: Domestic Deployment of the National Guard

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🗓️ 3 May 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Over the past several years, governors around the country from both political parties have used their respective National Guards for an increasingly unconventional array of domestic missions, ranging from teaching in public schools to regulating immigration at the southern border. To discuss how this trend may impact the National Guard—and our broader democracy, particularly in this pivotal election year—Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson recently sat down with a panel of senior former National Guard and Defense Department officials, including: General Craig McKinley, General Joseph Lengyel, Brigadier General Allyson Solomon, Major General Daryl Bohac, and former Assistant Secretary of Defense Dr. Paul Stockton. 

A video recording of the panel is available at https://www.brookings.edu/events/domestic-deployment-of-the-national-guard/

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Primarily, what the National Guard does is it saves lives. It protects property and it's

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usually an assist to the first response. It's the Law Fair Podcast. I'm Law Fair Senior Editor Scott

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R Anderson. How can you sustain a force as a reserve force for the United States active duty as a individual who needs to be prepared to respond when you're unable to find the time or half the time to do the training that you need in order to be fully prepared.

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Today we're bringing you the audio for panel I recently moderated at the Brookings Institution

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from several former senior National Guard and Defense Department officials

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discussing the increasingly common and increasingly controversial domestic use of the National Guard

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and what it might mean for the future of this important part of our military.

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I'm Scott Anderson. I'm a fellow here at Brookings and Governance Studies.

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I'm thrilled to be moderating an event, this event about a very important topic that is certainly on the front pages these days about this question of state active duty deployment and the use of the National Guard in new, innovative, and sometimes very politically charged ways that are creeping up in

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all sorts of quarters of our country and all sorts of policy issues and we could not

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ask for a better panel of people with an absolute wealth of experience to talk about this with.

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So I'm going to take a minute to introduce our panelists before we get started.

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Directly to my left we have General Craig McKinley who served as the 26th Chief of

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the National Guard Bureau from 2008 to 2012,

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capstoning 38 years of service.

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In this capacity, he was a military advisor to the President,

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the Secretary of Defense, and the National Security Council,

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and was the Department of Defense's official channel of communication to the governors and to state adjutants general on all matters pertaining to the National Guard.

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