Lawfare Daily: Ben Brooks on the Rise of Open Source AI
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🗓️ 9 May 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Ben Brooks, a fellow at Harvard's Berkman Klein Center and former head of public policy for Stability AI, joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at Texas Law and Contributing Editor at Lawfare, to discuss a sudden and significant shift toward open-sourcing leading AI models and the ramifications of that pivot for AI governance at home and abroad. Ben and Kevin specifically review OpenAI’s announced plans to release a new open-weights model.
Coverage of OpenAI announcement: https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/31/openai-plans-to-release-a-new-open-language-model-in-the-coming-months/
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| 1:26.4 | Maybe China is going to use open weight models to essentially ship their technology, their intangible technology around the world and create |
| 1:28.4 | dependencies on Chinese industry. The challenge is if these models have embedded vulnerabilities, |
| 1:35.1 | then what does that mean for the future of the digital economy? |
| 1:39.4 | It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Kevin Frazier, the AI Innovation and Law Fellow at Texas Law, and a |
| 1:45.6 | contributing editor at Lawfare. Join by Ben Brooks, a fellow at Harvard's Berkman Client Center |
| 1:50.7 | and former head of public policy for stability AI. If the U.S. withdraws, if it pulls up the |
| 1:58.3 | drawbridge, if it tries to cut off the flow of this open technology |
| 2:02.5 | either through enhanced chip controls or through controls on intangible technology, |
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