Lawfare Daily: Alexis Loeb on Kleptocracy and National Security

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🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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In her recent Lawfare article, Alexis Loeb—a former deputy chief of the Jan. 6 Capitol Siege Section at the U.S. Department of Justice and a current partner at Farella, Braun, and Martel—discussed Attorney General Pam Bondi’s memo dismantling the Kleptocracy Asset Recovery Initiative. On today’s episode, Loeb joined Lawfare Associate Editor Olivia Manes to talk about the work that the Kleptocracy Team conducted, why it mattered for national security, and whether the Justice Department’s actions are part of a broader administrative trend towards non-enforcement of corruption.

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1:06.0	We've also seen the Department of Justice dismissing certain FCPA cases. So the dismantling of
1:13.5	the kleptocracy initiative really is one piece of the administrations, the administrations move
1:20.7	away from foreign corruption enforcement. It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Olivia Manus,
1:30.5	associate editor of Lawfare, speaking with Alexis Loeb,
1:36.1	a former deputy chief of the January 6th Capitol Siege section at the U.S. Department of Justice and a current partner at Ferella, Ron, and Martel. It sends a message that corruption is not really on the United States radar anymore.
1:45.3	I think you've seen some countries already start to respond.
1:49.5	Several countries have announced that they are going to be stepping up their anti-corruption efforts.
1:55.7	And I think it's because they are recognizing that the United States won't be a partner in the same way.
2:02.9	Today, we're talking about kleptocracy. More specifically, we're talking about Alexis's latest
2:08.2	lawfare article, outlining how recent actions by the Justice Department have affected the
2:12.8	U.S. government's ability to prosecute grand corruption and money laundering crimes and why this matters for national security.
2:20.1	Alexis, from 2013 to 2015, you were a trial attorney with the kleptocracy asset recovery
2:26.2	initiative at the Department of Justice. Can you tell us a little about the work that you did
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