Lawfare Daily: A Conversation with an Exiled Venezuelan Opposition Leader
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🗓️ 22 August 2024
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Anastasiia Lapatina is a Kyiv-based Ukraine Fellow at Lawfare. Leopoldo Lopez is a Venezuelan opposition leader living in exile in Madrid, after escaping prison for leading protests against Nicolás Maduro in 2014.
Lapatina and Lopez discuss the results of Venezuela’s recent presidential election, ties between Venezuela’s autocrat Nicolás Maduro and other dictatorships, and the path forward for Venezuela after the rigged election.
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| 1:19.0 | There's been more than 3,000 arrests. There's been dozens of people killed, most of them young people, and there's been even a higher level of blocking signal, what's up, X, so Madur is closing the few spaces that were left and that's where we are now. |
| 1:37.2 | It's the Lawfare Podcast. I'm Anastesila Patina, Ukraine Fellow at Lawfare, |
| 1:42.4 | with Leopold-Dulopus, a Minnesota and opposition leader, |
| 1:45.9 | leaving an exile in Madrid. |
| 1:47.6 | And when you are under autocratic regimes, freedom is not theoretical. Freedom is real. Freedom is tangible. Freedom is day-to-day. Freedom is the things that you are allowed to do and the things you're not allowed to do. |
| 2:03.0 | Freedom is about feeling comfortable or fearful. |
| 2:06.5 | Today we're talking about Venezuela's rigged presidential election and how the country's |
| 2:12.3 | autocrat Nicholas Maduro is clinging to power with the help of other autocracies like Russia and China. |
| 2:19.0 | So on July 28th, Venezuela held its highly anticipated presidential election that everyone has been talking about since it happened. |
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