Lawfare Archive: White House Pressure, the Justice Department and the Election
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ποΈ 31 May 2026
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From October 9, 2021: The majority staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee has issued an interim report, entitled βSubverting Justice: How the Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the 2020 Election.β A lot of it covers ground we knew about previously, but it contains a raft of new details about the president's pressure on the Justice Department to support his election fraud claims, the resignation of a U.S. attorney in Georgia, and the bizarre attempt to install as acting attorney general a Justice Department official who might actually support the president's ambitions.
To go over it all, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare senior editors Alan Rozenshtein and Quinta Jurecic, and Lawfare associate editor Bryce Klehm, who has been reading all of the depositions in the matter. They talked about what the committee found, what aspects of it are new and what we might do about this dramatic turn of events.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, Ben Witt is here, editor-in-chief of Lawfare. |
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| 1:35.0 | for May 31st, 2006. |
| 1:39.1 | Under the Second Trump administration, the Department of Justice has been a central part of an effort |
| 1:43.3 | to investigate the president's claims of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election. This includes the |
| 1:49.4 | seizure of ballots from Fulton County, Georgia, an audit of the vote in Maricopa County, Arizona, |
| 1:55.5 | and most recently the attempt to collect voter registration data from states to audit voter |
| 2:00.3 | roles as part of President |
| 2:01.7 | Trump's March 31st executive order on securing federal elections. For today's archive, I chose an |
| 2:07.7 | episode from October 9th, 2021, in which Benjamin Wittes sat down with Alan Rosenstein and Quintagueresic |
| 2:14.6 | to unpack the Senate Judiciary Committee's interim report, which |
| 2:17.9 | detailed the first Trump administration's pressure on the Justice Department to support his |
| 2:22.3 | claims of election fraud in 2020. |
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