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Lawfare Archive: The State of the U.S.-China Relationship

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🗓️ 29 October 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

From August 24, 2020: In recent months, relations between the United States and China seem to have reached a new low as disagreements over trade, tech, human rights and the coronavirus have led the two sides to exchange increasingly harsh rhetoric. Just weeks ago, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo went so far as to suggest that the decades-long experiment of U.S. engagement with China had been a mistake. But is this heightened tension just a bump in the road, or is it a new direction for one of the United States's most important bilateral relationships? To discuss these issues, Scott R. Anderson sat down with an all-star panel of China watchers, including Tarun Chhabra of the Brookings Institution and Georgetown Center for Security and Emerging Technology, Elsa Kania of the Center for a New American Security, and Rob Williams, executive director of the Paul Tsai China Center at Yale Law School.

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I'm Will Appleton with an episode from the LawFair archive for October 29, 2022.

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It's been an important few months in terms of US-China relations.

1:24.1

Just this month, the Chinese Communist Party held its 20th National Congress, which saw

1:28.4

Xi Jinping secure his third-term in office.

1:31.5

The Biden administration released new export controls, intentions are still simmering over

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the fate of Taiwan.

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For today's archive episode, I picked an episode from 2020.

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In the episode, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Terune Shahabra of the Brookings Institution,

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al-Sakanya of the Center for a New American Security, and Rob Williams, executive director

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of the Paul Sigh China Center at Yale Law School.

1:55.6

They discussed disagreements between the US and China over trade, tech, human rights,

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