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Lawfare Archive: Preserving Justice Department Independence

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🗓️ 17 June 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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From April 28, 2018: On Thursday, former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates hosted a conference at Georgetown Law on the future of American democracy. Matt Axelrod, Bob Bauer, John Bellinger, Jack Goldsmith, and Don Verrilli participated in a panel on the norms that govern contacts between the White House and the Justice Department, how the Trump administration has broken them, and what can be done to protect the Justice Department’s independence in this administration and future ones.

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0:39.4

I'm Chia Cucatocas with an episode from the LawFair Archive for June 17, 2023.

0:45.9

After his arrangement on Tuesday, former president Donald Trump promised that if he is re-elected,

0:51.2

he will appoint a special prosecutor to quote, go after, end quote, President Biden and

0:56.3

his family.

0:57.6

Trump's message accusing the Justice Department of charging him solely because he is President

1:01.6

Biden's political opponent attempts to question the Justice Department's independence

1:05.8

from the executive branch.

1:07.5

For today's Archive episode, I picked an episode from April 2018 in which Matt Axelrod,

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Bob Bauer, John Belinger, Jack Goldsmith, and Don Verily sat down to discuss the norms

1:19.7

that govern the relationship between the White House and the Justice Department, how

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the Trump administration broke them, and what can be done to protect them moving forward.

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I'm Matthew Cun and this is the LawFair podcast, April 28, 2018.

1:39.6

Earlier this week, forward deputy attorney general Sally Hates convened an afternoon of panels

1:50.6

at Georgetown Law School on the future of American democracy.

1:55.7

One of those conversations featured an ensemble cast of five executive power luminaries.

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Matt Axelrod, Bob Bauer, John Belinger, Jack Goldsmith, and Don Verily.

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With a range of pessimism and optimism, they reflected on the norms that govern contact

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