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Lawfare Archive: Peter Berkowitz on Israel and the Laws of War

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🗓️ 14 October 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

From May 8, 2012: Peter Berkowitz of the Hoover Institution has a new book out, entitled Israel and the Struggle Over the International Laws of War. The book, which is very brief—more of a long essay, really—is an impassioned critique of the abuse of the laws of war by Israel's critics in both international organizations and in the academy. Peter runs the Hoover Institution's Koret-Taube Task Force on National Security and Law, of which Ben and several other people associated with this blog are members. He's also—full disclosure—one Ben’s closest personal friends. He took a break from his almost unspeakable travel schedule yesterday to stop by Brookings and chat about his book.

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I'm Kila Benjamin, intern at LawFair with an episode from the LawFair Archive for October

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14th, 2023. Last weekend, the world watched a Somosetech Israel, reportedly killing over

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1200 Israelis. Now attention is turning to Israel's response. Israeli strikes in Gaza

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this week have reportedly killed over 1500 Palestinians. For today's Archive episode, I picked

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an episode from May 8th, 2012, in which Benjamin would have sat down with Peter Berkowitz

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to discuss his book, Israel and the struggle over the international laws of war. The book

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is an impassioned critique of the abuse of the laws of war by Israel's critics, in both

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international organizations and the academy.

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Hello, and welcome to the LawFair podcast, I'm Benjamin Wittes. Our subject today is

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Israel and the international laws of war. We're talking about a new book by Peter Berkowitz

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entitled, appropriately enough, Israel and the struggle over the international laws of war,

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just published by the Hoover Institution Press. Peter is the chair of the Hoover Institution's

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correct Toby Task Force on national security and the law of which I and several other members

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of the law fair blog are members. The book, which is fewer than 100 pages long and very

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readable in a sitting, is an impassioned critique of the abuse of the laws of war by critics

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of Israel, in the UN and in the academy. And an argument in Peter's words, quote, that

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in our age, the struggle over the international laws of war has become critical to the defense

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of liberal democracies in a dangerous world. Peter stopped by Brookings yesterday to talk

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